jimwalton wrote:> The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ

So, I looked it up on the Internet because I've never heard of it, and therefore I know it's not a book we Christians believe in. It made me laugh. This is NOT a book we Christians believe. Just because some person writes a book and claims it's about Jesus doesn't mean we believe it. It's a ridiculous piece of false spirituality and fabricated history.

You wanted me to look at chapter 26, quote 4. On Wikipedia, it says it only goes up to Section 22.

This group—the Aquarian Church—is not recognized by Christians as having any legitimacy.

> since you never followed even christ and pissed on hsi teachings

What in the world?

> and whatever gospels are written they are testimony of some saintly persons what they learned from Christ

The Gospels in the Bible were written by 2 of Jesus's disciples, a man from the early Church who probably knew Jesus, and a Gentile who researched the story of Christ. You're right that it is what they learned from Christ.

> if you dont believe anything than why troll like an expert ? huh?

I subscribe to the truth. I follow logic, science, history, facts and evidence. The problem is that the things you have claimed don't fit into any of those categories. You're welcome to believe what you want, but it's not legitimate for a person to create their own facts.

> for you know practically nothing and yet you troll as if you know everything. ( what an farce )

We can discuss anything you wish, but we have to have some kind of agreement on the nature of truth and the objectivity of reality.

i know very well that you believe nothing, since you are already pissing on thou shall not kill, thou shall not adultery, thou shall not steal etc things.

so since when you actually followed Christ from last 2000 years ? huh? and as you are doing so you are suffering and you will suffer yet for your work.

farce is subscribion is good but whats now left to argue ? i dont understand what you want to argue now ? since you are not reasonable in the first place. and defying everything ( cuz you are not reasoanble ) so whats left to argue now ?huh?

what is left ? we cannot discuss anything because you are not reasoanble in the first place. and ( broken man ) try to understand what there is nothing for which i do care for you. who is already on the verge of getting finished with his dying or declining civilization.

and you cannot even admit facts on anything and yet farce was amazing. but im not interested in wasting time with you. we are done. now leave peacefully and enjoy in your dead forum alone.

> The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ

So, I looked it up on the Internet because I've never heard of it, and therefore I know it's not a book we Christians believe in. It made me laugh. This is NOT a book we Christians believe. Just because some person writes a book and claims it's about Jesus doesn't mean we believe it. It's a ridiculous piece of false spirituality and fabricated history.

You wanted me to look at chapter 26, quote 4. On Wikipedia, it says it only goes up to Section 22.

This group—the Aquarian Church—is not recognized by Christians as having any legitimacy.

> since you never followed even christ and pissed on hsi teachings

What in the world?

> and whatever gospels are written they are testimony of some saintly persons what they learned from Christ

The Gospels in the Bible were written by 2 of Jesus's disciples, a man from the early Church who probably knew Jesus, and a Gentile who researched the story of Christ. You're right that it is what they learned from Christ.

> if you dont believe anything than why troll like an expert ? huh?

I subscribe to the truth. I follow logic, science, history, facts and evidence. The problem is that the things you have claimed don't fit into any of those categories. You're welcome to believe what you want, but it's not legitimate for a person to create their own facts.

> for you know practically nothing and yet you troll as if you know everything. ( what an farce )

We can discuss anything you wish, but we have to have some kind of agreement on the nature of truth and the objectivity of reality.

jimwalton wrote:> now Christ also came to india

There is no evidence of this. As a matter of fact, the evidence is to the contrary. Jesus never came to India. He never went anywhere outside of Israel except for Egypt as a toddler.

> ( and you can trace it in your book The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ )

This is not my book, nor a book that I recognize as authoritative, nor do I consider it honest or accurate history.

> you killed christ before he could give any words.

This is not true, either. We have many of the words of Christ. They are recorded in the four Gospels.

You seem to have a lot of false information about these things. I don't your sources, but they seem to be erroneous.

> fun is christ is saying thou shall not and you christians invented worlds biggest organised slaughter houses

I don't know what you're talking about here, but it's not what we've been talking about. We can still discuss it, though. What are you talking about?

> he is saying thou shall not adultery and practically no husband and wife in west

This is false. There are many millions of husbands and wives in the west. Many multiple hundreds of millions.

> no regular life no social structure is there still

This is false also. Just about everything you're saying in this post is untrue.

> he said thou shall not steal and you stolen all lands like america, canada, new zealand, australia etc.

Now we're really off to the side. Conquering and being conquered is unfortunately part of all human history. It's true on all continents, and every people group has been involved in it.

What is it you really want to talk about? Let's stick to that instead of zooming all over the world on unrelated topics. What would you like to talk about?

The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ read the Chapter 26 quote 4 of it. and you will find it. ( anywhere wherever on internet this book is published by your own men even )
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and you may not consider it but history is in thsi books. and since you never followed even christ and pissed on hsi teachings so whats left ? huh? practically nothing.

and whatever gospels are written they are testimony of some saintly persons what they learned from Christ. and bible is written on spordic basics thats why its written gospel accordig to this or that.

and i have no false imformation, just because any random person who happens to own one site said it. for your own books are saying it. and if you dont believe anything than why troll like an expert ? huh? for you know practically nothing and yet you troll as if you know everything. ( what an farce )

and this is the details if we look little deeper in the things, but you have nothing rational and can defy the facts. which cannot be argued,

and there is nothing which you can talk. for i have just explained your points. and now if you think anything wrong than point it out otherwise what is left to argue ? huh?

there is nothing to argue now. but lots of things to do for sure. and now what you do with your life is your business, but i will go on with my mother or authority ( AKA Srila Prabhupada ) finished.

> now Christ also came to india

There is no evidence of this. As a matter of fact, the evidence is to the contrary. Jesus never came to India. He never went anywhere outside of Israel except for Egypt as a toddler.

> ( and you can trace it in your book The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ )

This is not my book, nor a book that I recognize as authoritative, nor do I consider it honest or accurate history.

> you killed christ before he could give any words.

This is not true, either. We have many of the words of Christ. They are recorded in the four Gospels.

You seem to have a lot of false information about these things. I don't your sources, but they seem to be erroneous.

> fun is christ is saying thou shall not and you christians invented worlds biggest organised slaughter houses

I don't know what you're talking about here, but it's not what we've been talking about. We can still discuss it, though. What are you talking about?

> he is saying thou shall not adultery and practically no husband and wife in west

This is false. There are many millions of husbands and wives in the west. Many multiple hundreds of millions.

> no regular life no social structure is there still

This is false also. Just about everything you're saying in this post is untrue.

> he said thou shall not steal and you stolen all lands like america, canada, new zealand, australia etc.

Now we're really off to the side. Conquering and being conquered is unfortunately part of all human history. It's true on all continents, and every people group has been involved in it.

What is it you really want to talk about? Let's stick to that instead of zooming all over the world on unrelated topics. What would you like to talk about?

jimwalton wrote:Thank you for responding. That shows me the post is not a bot-post**skip**> so how do we recognize him ? huh? what is the process of recognizing him ?

People are told who their father is. Most of the time, I would guess, people are being told the truth, but occasionally people are being lied to, or the truth is being hidden from them.

Then you say that the search for one's father is mostly not a good use of time, one should just accept Krishna as father. You give me a mantra to follow that will give peace and happiness. It has been my experience that mantras and chanting don't lead to happiness. Rather, the pursuit of truth and peace in one's mind and life bring happiness. Meaning in life is not found by lifestyles (no illicit sex, no meat, etc .), but instead by aligning with Jesus and being brought into right relationship with Him.

Let's talk more, and not just long cut-and-pastes. Thanks.

now Christ also came to india and learned this same truth as im speaking, and he was very intimate friend of jagannath puri's temple priests. ( and you can trace it in your book The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ )

so bible is written on spordic basics because you killed christ before he could give any words. and beside that fun is christ is saying thou shall not and you christians invented worlds biggest organised slaughter houses, he is saying thou shall not adultery and practically no husband and wife in west, no regular life no social structure is there still, he said thou shall not steal and you stolen all lands like america, canada, new zealand, australia etc.

so automatically your christianity is dead now.
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and thats one side of your christiainity now let us take present situation also in which your common wealth replaced real mother ( recognized agents of God or Lord Krishna like Srila Prabhupada and our christ could not give us his name because you killed him as soon as he said thou shall not kill ) with prostitutes ( aka these pseudo teachers, scientists, philosophers, psychologists ) and there only business is to deny the existence of our father. just because they havent seen him before there birth.

but no mature person takes such unmature childrens childish testimony.
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and now my duty is finished. now its your business to follow this Practical explanation or not. thats not my concern now what is next. but here is purpose of human life.

Thank you for responding. That shows me the post is not a bot-post, though I got this exact same post several years ago. Thanks for coming back to the forum.

> read it complete in order to understand what is truth beyond this point.

I did read it completely, but, as I mentioned, it seems a random collection of unrelated thoughts. Perhaps you could reword it for me or summarize what it is you are trying to say. What is the point you are making?

> our father existed before our birth

Everyone's does. It's how biology works. What is the point you are making?

> so how do we recognize him ? huh? what is the process of recognizing him ?

People are told who their father is. Most of the time, I would guess, people are being told the truth, but occasionally people are being lied to, or the truth is being hidden from them.

Then you say that the search for one's father is mostly not a good use of time, one should just accept Krishna as father. You give me a mantra to follow that will give peace and happiness. It has been my experience that mantras and chanting don't lead to happiness. Rather, the pursuit of truth and peace in one's mind and life bring happiness. Meaning in life is not found by lifestyles (no illicit sex, no meat, etc .), but instead by aligning with Jesus and being brought into right relationship with Him.

Let's talk more, and not just long cut-and-pastes. Thanks.

jimwalton wrote:Hmm. This seems like a bot-post, a random cut-and-paste, and not a personal message. I actually think I saw this exact same bot post on this site several years ago. If this is a personal message from someone who truly wants to discuss things, please let me know.

But just to get the conversation started, I find a flaw in your first premise. Let's start out talking about that, if this is actually a real person.

You start out with "no one can remember every single second of their lives," which is true. Our brains (most of them; I have read of a very small number of people with hyperthymesia, such as actress Marilu Henner, who are able to remember almost everything) are generally wired to forget. And it's true that natural condition of forgetfulness makes it such that we forget our past and we will continue to do so as we live our lives.

This characteristic by no means proves that Supreme Lord Krishna exists, nor that we possess no intelligence to understand him. Instead it proves that our minds don't remember every small detail. If you're a real person, let's talk.

read it complete in order to understand what is truth beyond this point.

and our father existed before our birth, so how do we recognize him ? huh? what is the process of recognizing him ?

Hmm. This seems like a bot-post, a random cut-and-paste, and not a personal message. I actually think I saw this exact same bot post on this site several years ago. If this is a personal message from someone who truly wants to discuss things, please let me know.

But just to get the conversation started, I find a flaw in your first premise. Let's start out talking about that, if this is actually a real person.

You start out with "no one can remember every single second of their lives," which is true. Our brains (most of them; I have read of a very small number of people with hyperthymesia, such as actress Marilu Henner, who are able to remember almost everything) are generally wired to forget. And it's true that natural condition of forgetfulness makes it such that we forget our past and we will continue to do so as we live our lives.

This characteristic by no means proves that Supreme Lord Krishna exists, nor that we possess no intelligence to understand him. Instead it proves that our minds don't remember every small detail. If you're a real person, let's talk.

Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )

can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??

if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?

that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.

So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.

( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).

if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )

same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.

Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.

cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.

tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )

5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )

and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.

Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.

if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.