by jimwalton » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:04 pm
The fire in Hell is no more literal than harps are in Heaven. Both are language-images to speak of other realities. Hell is going to be an awful place to be, so the image the Bible often uses is that of fire. It also uses images of darkness. Neither are meant to be literal. Images of heaven often speak of gold and gems, but there's no reason to think that Heaven is going to be gold and gems. These are literary images to speak to the realities behind them.
> When we’re dead, our pain receptors remain in our bodies.
I can tell you're already thinking in physical terms, but life after death only has some partial relationship to our lives now. "Death" in the Bible is never a cessation, but always a transition. Our bodies will be changed as we enter our eternal destiny, so physical pain receptors is a somewhat meaningless concept. The true agony of Hell will be a separation from God, not of any kind of physical torment.
> But I think we’re owed an explanation, if we are to be threatened with eternal damnation.
We have been given many elements of explanation about Hell and eternal damnation. I will hope that you have read the Bible, or at least some of it, before you take your what seems to be a pompous stand on this soap box.
> Wouldn’t it make more sense if we just lost our souls and thereby ceased to exist?
In what sense would that make more sense? That would mean that whatever you did in this life that may have been bad or evil or hurtful to others—you were just get away with it. You would die and that would be the end of it. Hitler, Epstein—hey, do whatever you want, because you're just die and cease to exist. There's no justice in that. It means this life is all that matters, and the powerful get to do whatever they want. There is no accountability.
The fire in Hell is no more literal than harps are in Heaven. Both are language-images to speak of other realities. Hell is going to be an awful place to be, so the image the Bible often uses is that of fire. It also uses images of darkness. Neither are meant to be literal. Images of heaven often speak of gold and gems, but there's no reason to think that Heaven is going to be gold and gems. These are literary images to speak to the realities behind them.
> When we’re dead, our pain receptors remain in our bodies.
I can tell you're already thinking in physical terms, but life after death only has some partial relationship to our lives now. "Death" in the Bible is never a cessation, but always a transition. Our bodies will be changed as we enter our eternal destiny, so physical pain receptors is a somewhat meaningless concept. The true agony of Hell will be a separation from God, not of any kind of physical torment.
> But I think we’re owed an explanation, if we are to be threatened with eternal damnation.
We have been given many elements of explanation about Hell and eternal damnation. I will hope that you have read the Bible, or at least some of it, before you take your what seems to be a pompous stand on this soap box.
> Wouldn’t it make more sense if we just lost our souls and thereby ceased to exist?
In what sense would that make more sense? That would mean that whatever you did in this life that may have been bad or evil or hurtful to others—you were just get away with it. You would die and that would be the end of it. Hitler, Epstein—hey, do whatever you want, because you're just die and cease to exist. There's no justice in that. It means this life is all that matters, and the powerful get to do whatever they want. There is no accountability.