Your logic breaks down at your first premise: "God is responsible for his creation." That's not a biblical concept. God created with a particular goal in mind, but people used their free will to sabotage it. Now humanity has gone rogue and run renegade, and it is under the control of a different force. Then God makes it his responsibility to do everything in his power to redeem them back, but there's only so much he can do. He can't interfere with their free will; love that is forced isn't love. He enacts a plan and pays the required price, but he cannot force us to respond. Each person must choose to put him- or herself under his authority, and then he can take responsibility for them again. For those who come to him, he takes responsibility to guarantee their entrance (Philippians 1.6).

Now, you also need to understand that he never created hell for people. That's not what hell is for. Matt. 25.41 is quite clear that hell is for the devil and his angels. Any person who goes there goes there against God's desires and intent.

Your analogy of a mafia boss goes against what Scripture tells us. Again, if you want to have this conversation with a Christian, we need to converse from the standpoint of what the Bible actually teaches rather than a slanted take on it. The mafia analogy assumes evil intent and evil means to accomplish evil goals. None of those are consistent with biblical teachings. Your analogy shows your bias, not an accurate understanding of biblical theology.

God is certainly in a position of authority, but not one of free-wheeling responsibility. Humans placed themselves out of the latter sphere, much to God's grief. His authoritative actions now are aimed at redeeming those who will freely come to him.

You're completely ignoring, or purposefully leaving out, God's responsibility for his creation. God, as the creator of all things, is responsible for all things. God created hell and the criteria by which souls are judged to go there, so he's responsible for anyone who goes.

A much better analogy is a mafia boss. A mafia boss offers his protection, but if you don't accept it he's going to have his boys shoot out your kneecaps. Now, did you choose to have your kneecaps shot for refusing his protection? No, that's ridiculous, the mafia boss is obviously responsible for what happened.

What if someone tries to rob you on the street at gunpoint, meaning he'll shoot you if you don't give him your wallet. He says "don't make me shoot you." If you don't give him your wallet did you choose to get shot, or is the thief responsible for pulling the trigger to shoot you?

You can't ignore God's position as the authority and one responsible for his entire creation. Your analogies completely ignore that fact.

You have it backwards, according to the Bible. According to the Bible, God invites everyone to come into relationship with him and to spend eternity in his presence. It's up to you if you walk through that door or not. Your choice is the one that determines where you stand. If I invite you to my house, and tell you I have an awesome party going on, and you are welcome to come, but then you don't come, and you have a lonely, lousy evening, that's not my fault. I didn't design or choose your "punishment," you did. The punishment is not an active effort on my part, the the passive consequence of your decision.

Maybe you still object. Let me try a different, also fitting illustration. Suppose I have a sixth sense, and I warn you that an earthquake is coming and will hit your city tomorrow night at midnight. I plead with you to come to my house, where I know we will be safe. You laugh at me, don't believe me, and choose to stay where you are. Don't blame me, then, for "punishing" you. You chose not to respond to the invitation. I'm not "doing" the punishing. The "punishing" is the mere passive consequence of your choice. I can't choose not to punish you; the earthquake is coming. All I can do is warn you of it and invite you to safety (salvation). If you choose to stay, don't blame me. And don't blame God if you choose not to respond to his invitation and bear the consequences of being apart from God by your own choice.

I wouldn't have chosen any fate for myself, because I would choose not to be punished by this god. If God sends me to be punished in the prison he created for to save me from, that's on his head. He can choose not to send me there, so if I end up in hell, that's all on him.

It's a colloquialism to say people do it to themselves when they're punished, but that's not actually true. The one doing the punishing could choose to not punish the person in question, meaning the one responsible for someone getting punished is the judge. This also applies to God. If I am punished, it's God's fault.

It only matters if God is real. If God isn't real, you shouldn't care about offending God, because he doesn't exist anyway. He's just a fantasy of crazy people. But if God is real, it matters a lot. That means he has oriented his entire being to your salvation and a love relationship with you. It means he has moved heaven and hell to transform you into what you were created to be. It means he has gone to great personal sacrifice to restore you to himself. But if you ignore that, and you willingly and continually offend him, choosing to separate yourself from his care and protection, then he cannot protect you from the fate that you have chosen for yourself. The descriptions in the Bible of that fate assure us it's the least desirable possible state of affairs. That's why it matters.

But if you don't believe any of that, you are free to make your own decisions and bear the consequences, whether good or bad, of your decisions. You can pilot your life as you wish. But if God is real, it changes the entire equation. Your choice, your future, your consequences.

Why should it matter what God says or thinks? Why should I care about offending God?

One of the fantastic characteristics of the human brain is how it can so easily go in tens of thousands of different directions. We can multi-task, plumb the depths of science, write astounding and soul-filled music, do absolutely amazing things with art forms, create whole worlds and histories in books and movies, and ponder metaphysical themes through philosophy and theology. If you want God to restrain intrusive thoughts, you need to play that strategy all the way to the edges, and I'm not sure it's a benefit for God to create those barriers. Secondly, as moral and free-willed beings, subduing intrusive thoughts puts a choke hold on a lot of things that make us human. It sounds as if you want God to create us with these amazing capabilities (so none of our creativities or curiosities are restrained) and at the same time dam up certain thought-rivers so we can't go there. I think you can't have your cake and eat it too; either our minds can go to the outer reaches, or there are walls (that might suppress more good than they do bad).

> A single good brain injury, and your road to damnation is practically assured.

Not at all. In the Bible God is noticeably gracious and tolerant of factors such as motives, situations, and capabilities.

> why not give kids the reasoning they need to avoid making all the mistakes they will, before their brain develops in the first place?

Actually, the Bible says God did do that. In the Genesis account, it was people who decided to make a mess of things; it wasn't God's mistake either in the design or manufacture. They had the reasoning capability, and they were duly warned of the consequences of defiance. They had every tool they needed to avoid making the mistakes, but they choose to pursue the wrong path anyway. Romans 1.18-32 teaches the same thing: people choose the wrong path through no fault of God's. I mean, just watch any American election process. It's pretty obvious that people, despite their reasoning capability, make horrible choices.

> It's like God likes sin, and just can't wait to punish people for it.

This is a complete distortion of the truth. God put tools and capabilities in place for people to avoid sin. He even warned them up front, more than once. And even a simple reading of the major prophets lets any reader know that sin grieves God viciously and tears his heart out. God also instituted a way for people to have their sins atoned for, taken away, and he even gives not only a different motive for behavior but also a different nature to enable compliance. To think that God likes sin and can't wait to punish people for it suggests to me you haven't read much of the Bible. It's like suggesting that Barack Obama hates America, or that a surgeon really hates his patients and likes to see them suffer and die. It's a thought that is distanced from reality.

So, if just having sinful thoughts counts as a sin, why did God create a brain prone to intrusive thoughts, where you need to actually think of something in order to try to not think about it?

And why is it incredibly easy to damage people's impulse control? A single good brain injury, and your road to damnation is practically assured.

For that matter, why not give kids the reasoning they need to avoid making all the mistakes they will, before their brain develops in the first place?

It's like God likes sin, and just can't wait to punish people for it.

And "Forgive me" is the safe word.

The Bible doesn't give just one definition of sin, but it's a multi-faceted concept. "Sin is thinking, doing, or being anything that demonstrates a dissatisfaction with God." "Sin is declaring ourselves the arbiters of right and wrong, rather than living in a dependent relationship." "Sin is humanity's enmity against God consisting in his refusal to understand and will what is right." "Sin refers to our human propensity to f*** things up." In the Bible sin has been variously defined, not just a simple picture. Sin is a state of being, an orientation, and a behavior. Sin is missing the mark, making mistakes, rebellion, perversion, evil, and trouble. Sin is any lack of conformity to the moral law of God.

Could you define sin for me?