by jimwalton » Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:49 pm
> What if Christians got it wrong, but just slightly?
We have to consider the evidence and use reason to determine this. Given the information we have, there is no compelling reason to think Christians got it wrong. We can talk about it more if you want.
> What if everyone has it just slightly wrong?
It makes sense to perceive that no one person has everything right, but that's a vast difference from saying Christianity got it wrong. As far as Mormons, there is no evidence for anything they claim, and that's a big complication for their entire faith system. Regarding the Jews, we continue to have conversations about the legitimacy of Jesus as Messiah.
> Maybe there is a god and that is it,
I see that you're an atheist. If there truly is a God, the ramifications of that are most profound. The scenario where it's just a shrug of the shoulders and "that is it" is unrealistic.
> there is no special message
Again, if there truly is a God, and it is possible to know God (what would be the point otherwise?), then of necessity there has to be a "special message." If any knowledge of God is possible, there has to be a special message.
> ...and everyone goes to heaven?
While this may be a nice sentiment, it doesn't square with reality. It's a total denial of evil and a contravention of any sense of justice.
> From an outside perspective if God is ever demonstrated to exist I bet all major religions have it wrong, even slightly.
I appreciate you expressing your opinion. The major religions are in extensive contradiction to each other. It's not possible that several have it slightly wrong. Either all but one are radically false, or all of them are false (not slightly). So we examine the evidences, which is why I subscribe to Christianity.
> What if Christians got it wrong, but just slightly?
We have to consider the evidence and use reason to determine this. Given the information we have, there is no compelling reason to think Christians got it wrong. We can talk about it more if you want.
> What if everyone has it just slightly wrong?
It makes sense to perceive that no one person has everything right, but that's a vast difference from saying Christianity got it wrong. As far as Mormons, there is no evidence for anything they claim, and that's a big complication for their entire faith system. Regarding the Jews, we continue to have conversations about the legitimacy of Jesus as Messiah.
> Maybe there is a god and that is it,
I see that you're an atheist. If there truly is a God, the ramifications of that are most profound. The scenario where it's just a shrug of the shoulders and "that is it" is unrealistic.
> there is no special message
Again, if there truly is a God, and it is possible to know God (what would be the point otherwise?), then of necessity there has to be a "special message." If any knowledge of God is possible, there has to be a special message.
> ...and everyone goes to heaven?
While this may be a nice sentiment, it doesn't square with reality. It's a total denial of evil and a contravention of any sense of justice.
> From an outside perspective if God is ever demonstrated to exist I bet all major religions have it wrong, even slightly.
I appreciate you expressing your opinion. The major religions are in extensive contradiction to each other. It's not possible that several have it slightly wrong. Either all but one are radically false, or all of them are false (not slightly). So we examine the evidences, which is why I subscribe to Christianity.