by jimwalton » Thu May 29, 2014 11:12 am
Both Judaism and Christianity are notorious unsacramental. Objects are not divine, and practices don't earn anything. In Judaism, when the temple was destroyed, the priesthood disrupted, and the sacrifices discontinued, Judiasm kept right on ticking. Those things had their place, but were not necessary. In the same way, original Christianity is about as "unreligious" and unsacramental as you can get. There were no priests, no temples, no sacrifices, no holy objects—nothing of the sort. God was what was holy. (It's only later that all this sacramental stuff was added in, but it sure ain't in the Bible or in the early practices.) In the New Testament, people don't have any holy power or grace to confer at the wave of a hand. There were no transactions from special people to confer special graces on unspecial people to make them special too. These things are foreign to Christianity. As such, the baptism of an infant doesn't confer any special grace or status. God's forgiveness is never issued to unknowing (or unwilling) parties, but always at the request of a amenable individual. (There is a lot more to say here, but I don't want to write a wall of text.) In the Bible, baptism is a willful act on the part of an individual to identify with Christ in his death and resurrection (under the water, up out of the water). Water baptism is an attestation of the presence of the Spirit (intentionally and willfully received) experience a believer has already had. To have a godparent "stand in" is sheer cultic sacramentalism—ritual ablution pure and simple, and is has no meaning and no effective consequence.
If you're agnostic, and your husband is atheist, there is no sense in baptizing a child, which is an act supposed to be done by a willing adult (not a unknowing child) to pledge identification with and commitment to a God—that you don't even believe in. Doesn't make sense to me.
Both Judaism and Christianity are notorious unsacramental. Objects are not divine, and practices don't earn anything. In Judaism, when the temple was destroyed, the priesthood disrupted, and the sacrifices discontinued, Judiasm kept right on ticking. Those things had their place, but were not necessary. In the same way, original Christianity is about as "unreligious" and unsacramental as you can get. There were no priests, no temples, no sacrifices, no holy objects—nothing of the sort. God was what was holy. (It's only later that all this sacramental stuff was added in, but it sure ain't in the Bible or in the early practices.) In the New Testament, people don't have any holy power or grace to confer at the wave of a hand. There were no transactions from special people to confer special graces on unspecial people to make them special too. These things are foreign to Christianity. As such, the baptism of an infant doesn't confer any special grace or status. God's forgiveness is never issued to unknowing (or unwilling) parties, but always at the request of a amenable individual. (There is a lot more to say here, but I don't want to write a wall of text.) In the Bible, baptism is a willful act on the part of an individual to identify with Christ in his death and resurrection (under the water, up out of the water). Water baptism is an attestation of the presence of the Spirit (intentionally and willfully received) experience a believer has already had. To have a godparent "stand in" is sheer cultic sacramentalism—ritual ablution pure and simple, and is has no meaning and no effective consequence.
If you're agnostic, and your husband is atheist, there is no sense in baptizing a child, which is an act supposed to be done by a willing adult (not a unknowing child) to pledge identification with and commitment to a God—that you don't even believe in. Doesn't make sense to me.