by jimwalton » Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:31 pm
I enjoy conversation with you. Thanks for the exchange. I agree that Jesus is not really talking about politics, just as he was not really talking about divorce when questioned, or so many other traps. Jesus' concerns were always spiritual, and even though the debate at hand forced him into varied subject matters, his points were always deeper than the subject of the trap.
He had just cleansed the temple and cursed the fig tree, fulfilling prophecy but also making a huge statement about their religious hypocrisy and the inadequacy of their works to achieve salvation. The cursing of the fig tree is an important parable about the failures of Judaism and the religious errors of their day. Jesus' curse of the tree is a curse of their false understandings and practice.
The subsequent discussion (21.32-23), however, is both a religious and political attack: "By what authority do you do these things?" Jesus' authority threatened both Rome (the kingdoms of the world) and Jerusalem (the false kingdom of God). The Romans claimed no higher authority on earth than Caesar; Jesus challenged every inch of that claim. The Jewish authorities believed they represented God both in theology and practice; Jesus challenged every inch of that claim. Jesus was claiming Lordship over heaven AND earth, both Rome AND Jerusalem. He shows them the way of righteousness: humility, repentance, and true belief (32).
He follows with the Parable of the Tenants, a divisive parable of both political and religious import. He uses a common political situation to illustrate a spiritual truth about his identity and authority, and through it he condemns their actions of rejection. But his point is both political and spiritual: He is the proper Davidic king, the Messiah sent from God, and salvation is in Him, not in anything else.
The subsequent Parable of the Wedding Banquet also has both political undertones and spiritual overtones. It's about a king, doing a kingly thing, but it's really about the rejection of truth by the enlightened, and the consequent invitation being issued to whoever will come. There will be judgment for all who reject the Davidic king, no matter who they are, and blessing for all who accept, no matter who they are.
Following on the heels of all this comes your passage about Caesar. I think it would be very unfair to say this doesn't have any political sense to it, though I agree with you that Jesus is not teaching us to pay taxes or not. His point is that while God has given us earthly kings, and we do owe a certain fealty to them to create a just society, God is our Sovereign King to whom ultimate allegiance is due. John Yoder, in "The Politics of Jesus," says, "Every pericope in the section of 19.47-22.22 reflects in some way the confrontation of the two social systems and Jesus’ rejection of the status quo. The trap question about the denarius is the most openly political." But Jesus won't fall into a political quagmire. He has made it clear that his kingdom is not of this earth, and just about everything he has said is an upending of everything we know, believe, and value. It's a little difficult to see how a little penny (denarius) can bring the whole question of clashing kingdoms to a culmination, but remember he is headed to Jerusalem to be killed, so even the smallest things have import at this stage.
The very possibility that such a question would arise, though, belies the reality that people understood very well that his teachings had not just spiritual import, but social, societal, and political implications as well. He was properly perceived as prescribing a comprehensive change of hearts, minds, and ways. And therefore the powers that be are out to stop him. Power, as we learn, will stop at nothing to be stopped at all. Power uses its power to retain and advance power. Here the powers of heaven and earth spin on a penny.
The question has all the airs of innocence: Should we pay taxes? It's a simple yes/no of which either answer will sink him deeply into the abyss of irrelevance or into the limelight of insurgency.
"Bring a penny," he briefly posed, "and I'll asked you a question of blatant simplicity: What do you see on it?"
Unsuspecting, they answered him clearly: "Caesar."
With the swing of a shrewd sword, Jesus disarms his attackers. "Give back to Caesar what is already Caesar's, and to God what is God's." The kingdoms of this world and the kingdoms of God are not in inherent, necessary conflict. Harmony is not only possible but desirable. Both church and state have their clear and distinct roles, and those two roles coincide, not clash. We have legitimate obligations to the government to have the resources to maintain a just society. We also have legitimate obligations to God (as his image, as you stated) to have the resources to maintain righteousness.
Why does this matter at this point in the story, or at all? The crucifixion conflict around the corner will bring a crown of Rome and Jerusalem smashing scornfullly on Jesus' head, and all the while we know that the kingdom of sin and death is being fatally wounded by the Kingdom of our God. But we are told later, as well as here, that the kingdoms of heaven and earth are not axiomatically at odds, for all will be redeemed, and the kingdoms of this earth will become the kingdom of our God, and He shall reign for ever and ever, amen.
This story puts a penny deposit on the story of boundless prosperity.
As you have claimed (and I agree), Jesus' point is always about our holiness and godliness. Though you have used the word image, I'm still not convinced that Jesus is making a point about the image of God in us vs. the image of Caesar on the coin, though I agree that he is making a point about spiritual realities than about how one feels about the government.
I enjoy conversation with you. Thanks for the exchange. I agree that Jesus is not really talking about politics, just as he was not really talking about divorce when questioned, or so many other traps. Jesus' concerns were always spiritual, and even though the debate at hand forced him into varied subject matters, his points were always deeper than the subject of the trap.
He had just cleansed the temple and cursed the fig tree, fulfilling prophecy but also making a huge statement about their religious hypocrisy and the inadequacy of their works to achieve salvation. The cursing of the fig tree is an important parable about the failures of Judaism and the religious errors of their day. Jesus' curse of the tree is a curse of their false understandings and practice.
The subsequent discussion (21.32-23), however, is both a religious and political attack: "By what authority do you do these things?" Jesus' authority threatened both Rome (the kingdoms of the world) and Jerusalem (the false kingdom of God). The Romans claimed no higher authority on earth than Caesar; Jesus challenged every inch of that claim. The Jewish authorities believed they represented God both in theology and practice; Jesus challenged every inch of that claim. Jesus was claiming Lordship over heaven AND earth, both Rome AND Jerusalem. He shows them the way of righteousness: humility, repentance, and true belief (32).
He follows with the Parable of the Tenants, a divisive parable of both political and religious import. He uses a common political situation to illustrate a spiritual truth about his identity and authority, and through it he condemns their actions of rejection. But his point is both political and spiritual: He is the proper Davidic king, the Messiah sent from God, and salvation is in Him, not in anything else.
The subsequent Parable of the Wedding Banquet also has both political undertones and spiritual overtones. It's about a king, doing a kingly thing, but it's really about the rejection of truth by the enlightened, and the consequent invitation being issued to whoever will come. There will be judgment for all who reject the Davidic king, no matter who they are, and blessing for all who accept, no matter who they are.
Following on the heels of all this comes your passage about Caesar. I think it would be very unfair to say this doesn't have any political sense to it, though I agree with you that Jesus is not teaching us to pay taxes or not. His point is that while God has given us earthly kings, and we do owe a certain fealty to them to create a just society, God is our Sovereign King to whom ultimate allegiance is due. John Yoder, in "The Politics of Jesus," says, "Every pericope in the section of 19.47-22.22 reflects in some way the confrontation of the two social systems and Jesus’ rejection of the status quo. The trap question about the denarius is the most openly political." But Jesus won't fall into a political quagmire. He has made it clear that his kingdom is not of this earth, and just about everything he has said is an upending of everything we know, believe, and value. It's a little difficult to see how a little penny (denarius) can bring the whole question of clashing kingdoms to a culmination, but remember he is headed to Jerusalem to be killed, so even the smallest things have import at this stage.
The very possibility that such a question would arise, though, belies the reality that people understood very well that his teachings had not just spiritual import, but social, societal, and political implications as well. He was properly perceived as prescribing a comprehensive change of hearts, minds, and ways. And therefore the powers that be are out to stop him. Power, as we learn, will stop at nothing to be stopped at all. Power uses its power to retain and advance power. Here the powers of heaven and earth spin on a penny.
The question has all the airs of innocence: Should we pay taxes? It's a simple yes/no of which either answer will sink him deeply into the abyss of irrelevance or into the limelight of insurgency.
"Bring a penny," he briefly posed, "and I'll asked you a question of blatant simplicity: What do you see on it?"
Unsuspecting, they answered him clearly: "Caesar."
With the swing of a shrewd sword, Jesus disarms his attackers. "Give back to Caesar what is already Caesar's, and to God what is God's." The kingdoms of this world and the kingdoms of God are not in inherent, necessary conflict. Harmony is not only possible but desirable. Both church and state have their clear and distinct roles, and those two roles coincide, not clash. We have legitimate obligations to the government to have the resources to maintain a just society. We also have legitimate obligations to God (as his image, as you stated) to have the resources to maintain righteousness.
Why does this matter at this point in the story, or at all? The crucifixion conflict around the corner will bring a crown of Rome and Jerusalem smashing scornfullly on Jesus' head, and all the while we know that the kingdom of sin and death is being fatally wounded by the Kingdom of our God. But we are told later, as well as here, that the kingdoms of heaven and earth are not axiomatically at odds, for all will be redeemed, and the kingdoms of this earth will become the kingdom of our God, and He shall reign for ever and ever, amen.
This story puts a penny deposit on the story of boundless prosperity.
As you have claimed (and I agree), Jesus' point is always about our holiness and godliness. Though you have used the word [i]image[/i], I'm still not convinced that Jesus is making a point about the image of God in us vs. the image of Caesar on the coin, though I agree that he is making a point about spiritual realities than about how one feels about the government.