by jimwalton » Thu Nov 17, 2022 10:37 pm
> It appears here as if it is God who brings, or allows the Babylonian to overcome Judah, by as it is stated that He is about to “remove all support”
Yes. We read the same thing in Habakkuk 1: God "raises up" the Babylonians to judge Judah. And you make a good observation: God isn't making the Babylonians do this. They are people of violence, using their own free wills to overcome Judah, and they will be accountable to God for their actions. God has been protecting Judah—that's how they have survived so long. But their sin causes God to merely lift His protective "wall," and the Babylonians will now have free rein to do as they wish.
I see it like hunting season. It's not like the government forces you to take up a gun and kill animals, but during a certain period each year, they lift the restrictions and protections.
> I wonder, as years go by, why isn’t Gods judgement seen as decisively, and why is there less contact to his people? ... After the Birth of Christ, it seems that intervention from God slows down?
God has three major periods (there are other periods, of course, such as during the time of Elisha) of interaction with humanity where His miracles, judgments, and actions are quite obvious: The Exodus, the ministry of Jesus, and the End Times. Other than those three, God is more in the shadows (example: reign of David, book of Esther, 400-yr gap from Malachi to John the Baptist, etc.), "hiding in plain sight," as C.S. Lewis said.
Though there are those who disagree with me, I agree with you that it seems that God's intervention has been different, and, yes, lesser, since the end of the apostolic era. We don't see the miracles, have the visions, etc. of times like the Exodus and the Apostolic era. The Holy Spirit has been much more subtle, working in inner lives, affecting souls, than He has been doing all the explicit manifestations of those other eras.
I believe a time is coming—when Jesus is about to return—when we will see the Spirit initiate a third period of obvious activity. Meanwhile, we walk by faith and not by sight, and we stay godly despite the delay.
> It appears here as if it is God who brings, or allows the Babylonian to overcome Judah, by as it is stated that He is about to “remove all support”
Yes. We read the same thing in Habakkuk 1: God "raises up" the Babylonians to judge Judah. And you make a good observation: God isn't making the Babylonians do this. They are people of violence, using their own free wills to overcome Judah, and they will be accountable to God for their actions. God has been protecting Judah—that's how they have survived so long. But their sin causes God to merely lift His protective "wall," and the Babylonians will now have free rein to do as they wish.
I see it like hunting season. It's not like the government forces you to take up a gun and kill animals, but during a certain period each year, they lift the restrictions and protections.
> I wonder, as years go by, why isn’t Gods judgement seen as decisively, and why is there less contact to his people? ... After the Birth of Christ, it seems that intervention from God slows down?
God has three major periods (there are other periods, of course, such as during the time of Elisha) of interaction with humanity where His miracles, judgments, and actions are quite obvious: The Exodus, the ministry of Jesus, and the End Times. Other than those three, God is more in the shadows (example: reign of David, book of Esther, 400-yr gap from Malachi to John the Baptist, etc.), "hiding in plain sight," as C.S. Lewis said.
Though there are those who disagree with me, I agree with you that it seems that God's intervention has been different, and, yes, lesser, since the end of the apostolic era. We don't see the miracles, have the visions, etc. of times like the Exodus and the Apostolic era. The Holy Spirit has been much more subtle, working in inner lives, affecting souls, than He has been doing all the explicit manifestations of those other eras.
I believe a time is coming—when Jesus is about to return—when we will see the Spirit initiate a third period of obvious activity. Meanwhile, we walk by faith and not by sight, and we stay godly despite the delay.