by jimwalton » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:00 pm
The culture was definitely sexist, as you as saying, but the church wasn't. It was radically egalitarian in the culture. Allowing women to pray and prophesy along with the men (1 Cor. 11.3-16) was unheard of. Saying in 1 Cor. 11.11 that the woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman was a wild thing to say. Each sex is incomplete without the other? You won't hear that in Greek philosophy or Roman writings.
That spiritual gifts were available to all, and not just the men, was radically counter-cultural. A woman like Priscilla being a respected teacher? Men and women being baptized (Acts 8.12)? Prophetesses like Philip's daughters (Acts 21.9)? On and on it goes. The church was radically egalitarian. Gal. 3.28: "[In Christ] there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
> there are plenty of other passages in the bible that show blatant sexism, there is no way you could support a claim that the book isn't guilty of it.
The culture is grotesquely sexist, and the people of the Bible are part of their cultures, to be sure. But the teachings of the Bible show a very different picture of women than the culture at large, protecting them and giving them rights that the surrounding cultures didn't give. I'd be glad to discuss this more with you. By and large, the accusations about misogyny in the Bible are trumped up, misunderstood, and misinterpreted by those who want to find fault and don't look deeply enough to discover the truth. We can talk about it more as you wish.
The culture was definitely sexist, as you as saying, but the church wasn't. It was radically egalitarian in the culture. Allowing women to pray and prophesy along with the men (1 Cor. 11.3-16) was unheard of. Saying in 1 Cor. 11.11 that the woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman was a wild thing to say. Each sex is incomplete without the other? You won't hear that in Greek philosophy or Roman writings.
That spiritual gifts were available to all, and not just the men, was radically counter-cultural. A woman like Priscilla being a respected teacher? Men and women being baptized (Acts 8.12)? Prophetesses like Philip's daughters (Acts 21.9)? On and on it goes. The church was radically egalitarian. Gal. 3.28: "[In Christ] there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ."
> there are plenty of other passages in the bible that show blatant sexism, there is no way you could support a claim that the book isn't guilty of it.
The culture is grotesquely sexist, and the people of the Bible are part of their cultures, to be sure. But the teachings of the Bible show a very different picture of women than the culture at large, protecting them and giving them rights that the surrounding cultures didn't give. I'd be glad to discuss this more with you. By and large, the accusations about misogyny in the Bible are trumped up, misunderstood, and misinterpreted by those who want to find fault and don't look deeply enough to discover the truth. We can talk about it more as you wish.