by jimwalton » Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:08 pm
> It’s the same Greek word used for “repent” all throughout the NT
Of course it is. It's the Greek word for "repent." But the Hebrew word for repent is *nahem,* and that's not the word used of the Ninevites. The Hebrew word used for the Ninevites, שָׁבוּ (*shoob*), means "turn around." This is also one of the meanings of metanoia. Terms have to be interpreted according to their context. If I say I love pizza and also that I love my spouse, I don't mean the same thing by those terms, even though you could claim, "Every time you talk about your spouse you use that same word 'love'. You're right, I do, but I still don't mean the same thing as when I use it to describe pizza. We have to be thinking people as we read the Scriptures.
> That’s what the Ninevites did, and that’s what every Christian does when they receive salvation.
As I've said many times, there's no evidence that's what the Ninevites did. The evidence to the contrary is stronger.
> No. The whole point of the reference is to get the SAME response out of the people as Jonah got out of the Ninevites. When he says he’s greater than Jonah, he’s making a point that he deserves their repentance that much more.
Jesus is observing that the religious leaders of his day are being even more blind and obstinate than the Assyrians of Nineveh. They were seeing greater evidences than the Ninevites did, and yet they were entrenched in their false thinking and misguided understandings. And yet they were Jews! Jesus's point is that even sheer pagans had enough eyesight to know when they were on the wrong course. If they could recognize it, these Jewish leaders had no excuse. They wanted some kind of boffo miracle to blow them away. Jesus says that hearing the truth should be "boffo" enough.
Jonah preached against them a message of impending doom, which is what Jesus is doing here. The sign of Jonah was that their sin had brought God's judgment.
> The whole point of the reference is to get the SAME response out of the people as Jonah got out of the Ninevites. When he says he’s greater than Jonah, he’s making a point that he deserves their repentance that much more.
What Jesus wants is for the leaders to turn away from their spiritual blindness, see that He is the Messiah sent from God, and come to him in faith. To do that they have to respond to his message, repent from their sins, believe in him and follow him. These are all very different from the situation of the Assyrian Ninevites. But even they knew to do what they did to appease God. These Jewish leaders know so much more, and even more will be shown to them (Jesus's resurrection). You're right that he deserves their repentance that much more.
> It’s the same Greek word used for “repent” all throughout the NT
Of course it is. It's the Greek word for "repent." But the Hebrew word for repent is *nahem,* and that's not the word used of the Ninevites. The Hebrew word used for the Ninevites, שָׁבוּ (*shoob*), means "turn around." This is also one of the meanings of metanoia. Terms have to be interpreted according to their context. If I say I love pizza and also that I love my spouse, I don't mean the same thing by those terms, even though you could claim, "Every time you talk about your spouse you use that same word 'love'. You're right, I do, but I still don't mean the same thing as when I use it to describe pizza. We have to be thinking people as we read the Scriptures.
> That’s what the Ninevites did, and that’s what every Christian does when they receive salvation.
As I've said many times, there's no evidence that's what the Ninevites did. The evidence to the contrary is stronger.
> No. The whole point of the reference is to get the SAME response out of the people as Jonah got out of the Ninevites. When he says he’s greater than Jonah, he’s making a point that he deserves their repentance that much more.
Jesus is observing that the religious leaders of his day are being even more blind and obstinate than the Assyrians of Nineveh. They were seeing greater evidences than the Ninevites did, and yet they were entrenched in their false thinking and misguided understandings. And yet they were Jews! Jesus's point is that even sheer pagans had enough eyesight to know when they were on the wrong course. If they could recognize it, these Jewish leaders had no excuse. They wanted some kind of boffo miracle to blow them away. Jesus says that hearing the truth should be "boffo" enough.
Jonah preached against them a message of impending doom, which is what Jesus is doing here. The sign of Jonah was that their sin had brought God's judgment.
> The whole point of the reference is to get the SAME response out of the people as Jonah got out of the Ninevites. When he says he’s greater than Jonah, he’s making a point that he deserves their repentance that much more.
What Jesus wants is for the leaders to turn away from their spiritual blindness, see that He is the Messiah sent from God, and come to him in faith. To do that they have to respond to his message, repent from their sins, believe in him and follow him. These are all very different from the situation of the Assyrian Ninevites. But even they knew to do what they did to appease God. These Jewish leaders know so much more, and even more will be shown to them (Jesus's resurrection). You're right that he deserves their repentance that much more.