by jimwalton » Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:17 pm
The terms Luke uses are all the common words for regular speech. Not only is there no indication in the text that the communication was non-verbal and non-audible, but Luke uses 3 terms from the Septuagint of Genesis 11, seeming to be making an intentional connection.
It seems that the people heard an audible sound (Acts 2.6) of the arrival of the Spirit. It seems they each heard a message in their own language (2.6, διαλέκτῳ, their own dialect), and the excitement was so palpable a crowd gathered around them to see what was happening (2.6).
Ben Witherington writes, "The phrase 'in his own language' modifies the verb 'speaking' in v. 6, not the verb 'hearing.' So there is exactly one miracle of speech at Pentecost: the ability to suddenly speak a foreign language without having learned it."
Again, Witherington: "The larger context of the story that Luke is presenting also supports this interpretation of the text. In Genesis 11 God confused the languages of humankind so they could not multiply sin. At Pentecost the multiple languages problem and language barrier is not resolved, but the Good News overcomes the problem by being shared in all the various languages of the persons present there. While Pentecost doesn’t reverse the effect of God’s confusing the languages at Babel (since the multiplication of sin is still a possibility), it overcomes the problem for the sake of the salvation of the nations.
"There may be one other echo that the Pentecost story has. There was an early Jewish tradition that the revelation of the Ten Commandments to Moses on Sinai came in all the languages of the world, since it was God’s Word not just for Hebrew-speaking Jews. Here is a closer parallel to the Pentecost story, and it may be that Luke in Acts was suggesting that God had indeed done at Pentecost what the rabbis had suggested once happened at Sinai, namely, sharing his saving Word in all human languages. The proof we are on the right track is that the one-day festival of Pentecost had come to be the day when Jews celebrated the giving of the Law at Sinai. Luke’s presentation of what actually happened at Pentecost reflects and echoes these earlier traditions."
In 2.7 & 11, even the passers-by acknowledged hearing actual speaking. There is no hint that only the 120 disciples, or even just the believers could hear what was being said. The hubbub drew a crowd of even scoffers (2.13). I just don't see how what Luke is talking about could be interpreted as non-verbal and non-audible. While, as you say, the Spirit could do such a thing, that's not what the text seems to be indicating.
> it doesn't seem to fit the personality of His miracles.
I'll agree that we don't see a miracle like this any other time, but that doesn't mean much. There was only 1 burning bush, 1 axehead floating, 1 donkey talking, 1 water to wine, etc.
God's miracles are often singular in their focus (one of the reasons I have problems with claiming a global flood, which would require about 50 miracles in coordination and sequence, at least): the waters part, the bread is multiplied, the water becomes wine, Jesus walks on water, etc. In that sense I see this as similar: people hear their own languages.
Second, the miracles of God are rarely stand-alone miracles, but they are meant as signs of God's revelation that are in tandem with something else (a prophetic word) to explain them. That's what we see hear, since the fire is followed by a sermon through which God works mightily. So in that sense I see this as similar.
Third, almost all of God's miracles are to lead people to belief and to a relationship with him. Again, that's what I see here.
So we'd have to talk about why you think this doesn't fit the personality of God's style.
The terms Luke uses are all the common words for regular speech. Not only is there no indication in the text that the communication was non-verbal and non-audible, but Luke uses 3 terms from the Septuagint of Genesis 11, seeming to be making an intentional connection.
It seems that the people heard an audible sound (Acts 2.6) of the arrival of the Spirit. It seems they each heard a message in their own language (2.6, διαλέκτῳ, their own dialect), and the excitement was so palpable a crowd gathered around them to see what was happening (2.6).
Ben Witherington writes, "The phrase 'in his own language' modifies the verb 'speaking' in v. 6, not the verb 'hearing.' So there is exactly one miracle of speech at Pentecost: the ability to suddenly speak a foreign language without having learned it."
Again, Witherington: "The larger context of the story that Luke is presenting also supports this interpretation of the text. In Genesis 11 God confused the languages of humankind so they could not multiply sin. At Pentecost the multiple languages problem and language barrier is not resolved, but the Good News overcomes the problem by being shared in all the various languages of the persons present there. While Pentecost doesn’t reverse the effect of God’s confusing the languages at Babel (since the multiplication of sin is still a possibility), it overcomes the problem for the sake of the salvation of the nations.
"There may be one other echo that the Pentecost story has. There was an early Jewish tradition that the revelation of the Ten Commandments to Moses on Sinai came in all the languages of the world, since it was God’s Word not just for Hebrew-speaking Jews. Here is a closer parallel to the Pentecost story, and it may be that Luke in Acts was suggesting that God had indeed done at Pentecost what the rabbis had suggested once happened at Sinai, namely, sharing his saving Word in all human languages. The proof we are on the right track is that the one-day festival of Pentecost had come to be the day when Jews celebrated the giving of the Law at Sinai. Luke’s presentation of what actually happened at Pentecost reflects and echoes these earlier traditions."
In 2.7 & 11, even the passers-by acknowledged hearing actual speaking. There is no hint that only the 120 disciples, or even just the believers could hear what was being said. The hubbub drew a crowd of even scoffers (2.13). I just don't see how what Luke is talking about could be interpreted as non-verbal and non-audible. While, as you say, the Spirit [i]could[/i] do such a thing, that's not what the text seems to be indicating.
> it doesn't seem to fit the personality of His miracles.
I'll agree that we don't see a miracle like this any other time, but that doesn't mean much. There was only 1 burning bush, 1 axehead floating, 1 donkey talking, 1 water to wine, etc.
God's miracles are often singular in their focus (one of the reasons I have problems with claiming a global flood, which would require about 50 miracles in coordination and sequence, at least): the waters part, the bread is multiplied, the water becomes wine, Jesus walks on water, etc. In that sense I see this as similar: people hear their own languages.
Second, the miracles of God are rarely stand-alone miracles, but they are meant as signs of God's revelation that are in tandem with something else (a prophetic word) to explain them. That's what we see hear, since the fire is followed by a sermon through which God works mightily. So in that sense I see this as similar.
Third, almost all of God's miracles are to lead people to belief and to a relationship with him. Again, that's what I see here.
So we'd have to talk about why you think this doesn't fit the personality of God's style.