by jimwalton » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:18 am
I don't understand your comment at all. I said the phrase "according to the flesh" means different things in Romans, so we have to look at the context to see what it means here in Rom. 1.3. Then I said that according to the context, here is what it means. Your response, then, was "Context is the key," and we have to pay attention to the context—which is what I did. Then you followed with "nobody has been able to do this." ?????? Color me confused.
- In Rom. 1.3, "flesh" means Jesus's physical body in space-time history. His earthly life.
- In Rom. 2.28, "flesh" means our physical bodies, in this case where physical circumcision happens.
- In Rom. 3.20, "flesh" is an indicator of humanity: all persons.
- In Rom. 4.1, "flesh" means "humanly speaking." The "flesh" is his human-oriented works as opposed to God's grace.
- In Rom. 6.19, "flesh" means everyday life, human existence.
- in Rom. 7.5 & 18, "flesh" means that part of us susceptible to sinful passions—the sin nature.
- In Rom. 8, the 13 occurrences of "flesh" mean the sin nature.
- In Rom. 9.3, "flesh" means Paul's fellow Jews.
- In Rom. 9.5, "flesh" means the physical line of ancestry from the patriarchs to Jesus.
- In Rom. 9.8, "flesh" means a physical line of descent in contrast to a spiritual birth available to all who come to Jesus.
- In Rom. 11.14, "flesh" means Paul's fellow Jews
- In Rom. 13.14, "flesh" means that part of us susceptible to sinful passions—the sin nature.
So possibly, brother, you can clarify what you're talking about and how I have failed to address your question.
I don't understand your comment at all. I said the phrase "according to the flesh" means different things in Romans, so we have to look at the context to see what it means here in Rom. 1.3. Then I said that according to the context, here is what it means. Your response, then, was "Context is the key," and we have to pay attention to the context—which is what I did. Then you followed with "nobody has been able to do this." ?????? Color me confused.
[list][*] In Rom. 1.3, "flesh" means Jesus's physical body in space-time history. His earthly life.
[*] In Rom. 2.28, "flesh" means our physical bodies, in this case where physical circumcision happens.
[*] In Rom. 3.20, "flesh" is an indicator of humanity: all persons.
[*] In Rom. 4.1, "flesh" means "humanly speaking." The "flesh" is his human-oriented works as opposed to God's grace.
[*] In Rom. 6.19, "flesh" means everyday life, human existence.
[*] in Rom. 7.5 & 18, "flesh" means that part of us susceptible to sinful passions—the sin nature.
[*] In Rom. 8, the 13 occurrences of "flesh" mean the sin nature.
[*] In Rom. 9.3, "flesh" means Paul's fellow Jews.
[*] In Rom. 9.5, "flesh" means the physical line of ancestry from the patriarchs to Jesus.
[*] In Rom. 9.8, "flesh" means a physical line of descent in contrast to a spiritual birth available to all who come to Jesus.
[*] In Rom. 11.14, "flesh" means Paul's fellow Jews
[*] In Rom. 13.14, "flesh" means that part of us susceptible to sinful passions—the sin nature.[/list]
So possibly, brother, you can clarify what you're talking about and how I have failed to address your question.