by jimwalton » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:06 pm
The story of David in 1 Samuel 25 is not meant to be a complimentary story. It's actually showing quite a bit of negative attitudes and behavior on his part, not approving of many of them, and certainly not holding them up to us as examples. Much of what David does in the chapter is wrong; much of what Abigail does in the chapter is noble, intelligent, tactful, diplomatic, and wise. The Bible uses her story to elevate women and to show the rightful place they had in creating Israel. If it were not for her, David by this action would have made a huge mistake, probably been relegated to the category of a tribal lord, would never have become king. The point of the story is how delicately it all hangs in the balance, and simple mistakes can be huge, history-changing errors. Abigail saves the monarchy.
The death of Samuel marks the end of an era and leaves a power vacuum. The plotline is now: who will rise to be lead in a worthy manner? In verse 1 we see David is already on the move. The plot: is it time for David to ascend the throne? The literary foil (or the one who is supposed to play that role) is introduced: Nabal the fool, the mean and ill-behaved. Abigail is also introduced as both intelligent and beautiful. The chapter is going to be filled with good/evil themes.
David has been a Robin Hood type of character in the Judean wilderness—advocating for the poor, protecting people despite his banishment, and doing so with honor. Nabal continues to play the evil fool, and instead of responding with nobility, David sinks to his level, arming his men in petty and immature vengeance, to meet hostile attitude with hostile action.
In her wisdom, Abigail understands that one horrific offense is about to lead to a horrible mistake, and takes immediate action to rectify the situation and prevent senseless killing. She acts with intelligence, humility, generosity, and selflessness. We don't need to be a rocket scientist to comprehend that she understands that David is about to make an irreversible mistake. (The text does not paint David as thinking or doing right, or as having made good decisions here.) Her husband has been a fool; she is trying to prevent David from also acting the fool (v. 25).
Verse 26 is instructive. Her use of the terms "bloodshed" and "avenging yourself with your own hands" are deliberately designed to show David the error of his ways in the eyes of God. Her actions and words are pure genius.
In v. 28 (also 30) we see that she has the monarchy in mind, where David has only murder. She backs him off with "Let no wrongdoing be found in you." She reinforces it in v. 31 with the guilt of wrongdoing and regret he will have on his conscience for "the staggering burden of needless bloodshed" or of "avenging himself."
You say that the text doesn't say David was wrong to avenge himself in this way, but this is it. Abigail nails it. His repentance from his act in the name of God betrays that he came to understand that he was indeed wrong.
> So far as I can tell David only refers to his thwarted action as "bloodguilt' because (had Abigail not shown up) he would have killed people not knowing that one of them was willing to pay him off so that he would not kill them.
Not quite. He certainly would have killed them off had Abigail not shown up, but I think you're misinterpreting the "bribe." David was looking for recompense for his protection; Abigail was "paying" that. It was the rightful thing to do, not a bribe. David had provided a good and necessary service (vv. 15-16). Abigail's "gift" was the right response, not a bribe.
> He rejoices in the death of a man he was supposed to love.
You're right. David is not the hero here. The only thing he does right in the whole story is repent from his intended act of murder. David's attitude is of rejoicing in the death of Nabal is not praised.
> David never says this
Yes he does, in 32-34.
> Abigail paid the mob protection money
I can see where you think this, but "the mob" is a criminal organization involved in criminal activity. David was actually doing noble things (15-16). He's not the mob, but his passions get the best of him here and he needs an intervention.
> How many paragraphs does it take to justify genocide?
About 10 paragraphs, but not to justify genocide, but to explain to you what was really going on during the conquest. It's too big to write here. If you want to talk about, I'd be glad to, but there isn't room since I'm addressing the 1 Sam. 25 story.
> So, when it makes Christianity look good, you are willing to admit that the Bible contains fiction masquerading as history.
Now now. That's just silly. It's a ridiculous statement unworthy of you and this conversation.
The story of David in 1 Samuel 25 is not meant to be a complimentary story. It's actually showing quite a bit of negative attitudes and behavior on his part, not approving of many of them, and certainly not holding them up to us as examples. Much of what David does in the chapter is wrong; much of what Abigail does in the chapter is noble, intelligent, tactful, diplomatic, and wise. The Bible uses her story to elevate women and to show the rightful place they had in creating Israel. If it were not for her, David by this action would have made a huge mistake, probably been relegated to the category of a tribal lord, would never have become king. The point of the story is how delicately it all hangs in the balance, and simple mistakes can be huge, history-changing errors. Abigail saves the monarchy.
The death of Samuel marks the end of an era and leaves a power vacuum. The plotline is now: who will rise to be lead in a worthy manner? In verse 1 we see David is already on the move. The plot: is it time for David to ascend the throne? The literary foil (or the one who is supposed to play that role) is introduced: Nabal the fool, the mean and ill-behaved. Abigail is also introduced as both intelligent and beautiful. The chapter is going to be filled with good/evil themes.
David has been a Robin Hood type of character in the Judean wilderness—advocating for the poor, protecting people despite his banishment, and doing so with honor. Nabal continues to play the evil fool, and instead of responding with nobility, David sinks to his level, arming his men in petty and immature vengeance, to meet hostile attitude with hostile action.
In her wisdom, Abigail understands that one horrific offense is about to lead to a horrible mistake, and takes immediate action to rectify the situation and prevent senseless killing. She acts with intelligence, humility, generosity, and selflessness. We don't need to be a rocket scientist to comprehend that she understands that David is about to make an irreversible mistake. (The text does not paint David as thinking or doing right, or as having made good decisions here.) Her husband has been a fool; she is trying to prevent David from also acting the fool (v. 25).
Verse 26 is instructive. Her use of the terms "bloodshed" and "avenging yourself with your own hands" are deliberately designed to show David the error of his ways in the eyes of God. Her actions and words are pure genius.
In v. 28 (also 30) we see that she has the monarchy in mind, where David has only murder. She backs him off with "Let no wrongdoing be found in you." She reinforces it in v. 31 with the guilt of wrongdoing and regret he will have on his conscience for "the staggering burden of needless bloodshed" or of "avenging himself."
You say that the text doesn't say David was wrong to avenge himself in this way, but this is it. Abigail nails it. His repentance from his act in the name of God betrays that he came to understand that he was indeed wrong.
> So far as I can tell David only refers to his thwarted action as "bloodguilt' because (had Abigail not shown up) he would have killed people not knowing that one of them was willing to pay him off so that he would not kill them.
Not quite. He certainly would have killed them off had Abigail not shown up, but I think you're misinterpreting the "bribe." David was looking for recompense for his protection; Abigail was "paying" that. It was the rightful thing to do, not a bribe. David had provided a good and necessary service (vv. 15-16). Abigail's "gift" was the right response, not a bribe.
> He rejoices in the death of a man he was supposed to love.
You're right. David is not the hero here. The only thing he does right in the whole story is repent from his intended act of murder. David's attitude is of rejoicing in the death of Nabal is not praised.
> David never says this
Yes he does, in 32-34.
> Abigail paid the mob protection money
I can see where you think this, but "the mob" is a criminal organization involved in criminal activity. David was actually doing noble things (15-16). He's not the mob, but his passions get the best of him here and he needs an intervention.
> How many paragraphs does it take to justify genocide?
About 10 paragraphs, but not to justify genocide, but to explain to you what was really going on during the conquest. It's too big to write here. If you want to talk about, I'd be glad to, but there isn't room since I'm addressing the 1 Sam. 25 story.
> So, when it makes Christianity look good, you are willing to admit that the Bible contains fiction masquerading as history.
Now now. That's just silly. It's a ridiculous statement unworthy of you and this conversation.