by jimwalton » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:44 am
I'm not aware that it's a "Christian" thing. It's a personal decision. I'm not a Catholic, but it's my understanding that traditionally Catholic parents had more children because of the Church's rules about contraception, but that has no bearing on Protestants. As far as I know. there's no rule or understanding of "We have to have lots of kids! We're Christians!" People have what they personally choose for their families.
I agree that overpopulation is a growing problem (pun intended). It's astounding that the earth can sustain a population of 7.5B, but it's hard to imagine we can go much higher without even more serious problems than now exist.
> why the focus on increasing births and population?
I know of no focus on increasing births and the population.
> I had understood that was an attempt to "take over the world".
It is the desire of Christians to take over the world on the basis of "love for one's neighbor" and spreading the truth to every corner. But Christians have no goal of taking over the world via sheer force of numbers.
I know the Bible says, "Be fruitful and multiply" (Gn. 1.28), but that's a blessing, not a command. The verse specifically says, "God blessed them and said," not "God commanded them and said..."
Van Leeuwen says, "This is not a commandment, but a blessing. It does not refer to what humans must do to please God, but to what God does for and through humankind. The text says God blessed them and said to them 'be fruitful and multiply.' Fertility is not a command but a blessing. The filling of the earth is a gift of God’s wisdom and shows forth his glory as Creator (Ps. 103.24, 31; Isa. 6.3). Cf. Gn. 24.60. The upshot is that God does not command humans to be fruitful. Rather, he himself will bless his creatures and see to it that they are fruitful."
I'm not aware that it's a "Christian" thing. It's a personal decision. I'm not a Catholic, but it's my understanding that traditionally Catholic parents had more children because of the Church's rules about contraception, but that has no bearing on Protestants. As far as I know. there's no rule or understanding of "We have to have lots of kids! We're Christians!" People have what they personally choose for their families.
I agree that overpopulation is a growing problem (pun intended). It's astounding that the earth can sustain a population of 7.5B, but it's hard to imagine we can go much higher without even more serious problems than now exist.
> why the focus on increasing births and population?
I know of no focus on increasing births and the population.
> I had understood that was an attempt to "take over the world".
It is the desire of Christians to take over the world on the basis of "love for one's neighbor" and spreading the truth to every corner. But Christians have no goal of taking over the world via sheer force of numbers.
I know the Bible says, "Be fruitful and multiply" (Gn. 1.28), but that's a [i]blessing[/i], not a command. The verse specifically says, "God blessed them and said," not "God commanded them and said..."
Van Leeuwen says, "This is not a commandment, but a blessing. It does not refer to what humans must do to please God, but to what God does for and through humankind. The text says God blessed them and said to them 'be fruitful and multiply.' Fertility is not a command but a blessing. The filling of the earth is a gift of God’s wisdom and shows forth his glory as Creator (Ps. 103.24, 31; Isa. 6.3). Cf. Gn. 24.60. The upshot is that God does not command humans to be fruitful. Rather, he himself will bless his creatures and see to it that they are fruitful."