Is it true that Genesis was spliced together from at least two seperate earlier sources which are lost?
And there being a lot of material and things which the Scriptures do not reveal that even Peter or Paul realize this very fact in their New Testament teachings regarding 'The Mystery Hidden for Eoens Past?
I've heard that it's likely well in likely there are four sources losr along with the entire backdrop of Genesis 1-6 being found in things older than the Bible mythological material, such as Babylonian lore, Sumerian mythology and whoever inspired the ancient Egyptians?
With even China and India have things simliar like the narratives in Genesis which predate the Bible for example in terms of India, The Hindu Vedas which is said to be tens of thousands of years old
In which John is told to 'seal up' what the seven thunders say so that we don't know.
With Most unfulfilled Bible prophecies being is cryptic so that the humans and that the evil one don't know the future
I've also heard that Moses coming from Egypt as a General or Prince with access to their priesthood and their religion and history may something to do with it being lost but I'm not so sure.
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Re: Was Genesis spliced together?
by jimwalton » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:01 pm
All theories of biblical text patchwork-quilt composition are speculative at best and have never been substantiated. It has never been proven that Genesis was spliced together. As a matter of fact, ever since the 1960s, mounting criticism from many varied directions has appeared against the documentary theory.
It is sometimes thought that Gen. 1-6 are of a different author than 7-11, but recent computer-driven linguistic analyses prove that to be untrue. Victor Hamilton writes, "One strong challenge comes from Isaac Kikawada who presents what he believes to be an unassailable case for the unity of Gen. 1-11. (His work was almost totally concerned with just chapters 1-11.) In another case, a thorough computer analysis of linguistics by Radday and Shore points to a single author."
> And there being a lot of material and things which the Scriptures do not reveal that even Peter or Paul realize this very fact in their New Testament teachings regarding 'The Mystery Hidden for Eoens Past?
Paul and Peter were talking about Jesus as the Messiah and salvation by the blood of the cross and offered to us by grace. They weren't talking about the composition of the OT.
> I've heard that it's likely well in likely there are four sources lost along with the entire backdrop of Genesis 1-6 being found in things older than the Bible mythological material, such as Babylonian lore, Sumerian mythology and whoever inspired the ancient Egyptians?
No, this isn't true. Similarity doesn't assure derivation. While there are some common elements of Genesis 1-9 with various contemporary mythological records, the differences are vast and enough to create doubt that they were the source of Genesis. Instead, it's more accurate to view them as different theological interpretations of the same historical event.
> With even China and India have things simliar like the narratives in Genesis which predate the Bible for example in terms of India, The Hindu Vedas which is said to be tens of thousands of years old
We'd have to discuss the specifics. It's impossible to comment responsibly on such a generality.
> In which John is told to 'seal up' what the seven thunders say so that we don't know.
The idea in Revelation 10.4 is that this portion of what was revealed to John is to stay closed and concealed until the end, as we also read in Deuteronomy 29.29: "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law," and Paul in 2 Corinthians 12.4: "was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell."
There's no reason to think that the method of composition of Genesis is included in what these verses are talking about. It's a completely different thing.
> I've also heard that Moses coming from Egypt as a General or Prince with access to their priesthood and their religion and history may something to do with it being lost but I'm not so sure.
Nah, there's nothing plausible about this. While some things in ancient Israel do have reference points in ancient Egypt, the composition of Genesis is not one of them.
It is sometimes thought that Gen. 1-6 are of a different author than 7-11, but recent computer-driven linguistic analyses prove that to be untrue. Victor Hamilton writes, "One strong challenge comes from Isaac Kikawada who presents what he believes to be an unassailable case for the unity of Gen. 1-11. (His work was almost totally concerned with just chapters 1-11.) In another case, a thorough computer analysis of linguistics by Radday and Shore points to a single author."
> And there being a lot of material and things which the Scriptures do not reveal that even Peter or Paul realize this very fact in their New Testament teachings regarding 'The Mystery Hidden for Eoens Past?
Paul and Peter were talking about Jesus as the Messiah and salvation by the blood of the cross and offered to us by grace. They weren't talking about the composition of the OT.
> I've heard that it's likely well in likely there are four sources lost along with the entire backdrop of Genesis 1-6 being found in things older than the Bible mythological material, such as Babylonian lore, Sumerian mythology and whoever inspired the ancient Egyptians?
No, this isn't true. Similarity doesn't assure derivation. While there are some common elements of Genesis 1-9 with various contemporary mythological records, the differences are vast and enough to create doubt that they were the source of Genesis. Instead, it's more accurate to view them as different theological interpretations of the same historical event.
> With even China and India have things simliar like the narratives in Genesis which predate the Bible for example in terms of India, The Hindu Vedas which is said to be tens of thousands of years old
We'd have to discuss the specifics. It's impossible to comment responsibly on such a generality.
> In which John is told to 'seal up' what the seven thunders say so that we don't know.
The idea in Revelation 10.4 is that this portion of what was revealed to John is to stay closed and concealed until the end, as we also read in Deuteronomy 29.29: "The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law," and Paul in 2 Corinthians 12.4: "was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell."
There's no reason to think that the method of composition of Genesis is included in what these verses are talking about. It's a completely different thing.
> I've also heard that Moses coming from Egypt as a General or Prince with access to their priesthood and their religion and history may something to do with it being lost but I'm not so sure.
Nah, there's nothing plausible about this. While some things in ancient Israel do have reference points in ancient Egypt, the composition of Genesis is not one of them.
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