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Do you consider Mormons to be Christians?

Postby Tsarina » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:17 pm

That's all: Do you consider Mormons to be Christians?
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Re: Do you consider Mormons to be Christians?

Postby jimwalton » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:12 pm

No I don't. In Mormon theology...

1. Jesus is not the eternal God.
2. Christ's death on the cross is only partially effective in saving the sinner. Atonement is only made possible, not secured, by his death.
3. Good works are necessary for salvation. Christ's work only opens the door; man's work must do the rest.
4. You can only get to heaven if you are married.

Since Mormons believe that Jesus is not the eternal God, that his death didn't secure atonement for our sins, and that we have to get ourselves to heaven, I would say they are not Christian, no.

Also, from the website http://www.exmormonsforjesus.org/moreinfo4.html, there is a statement that if Mormons follow Jesus, they would certainly believe in what he taught. But they don't. Mormons teach many things that go directly against what Jesus taught, such as...

1. The plurality of Gods (Mormon Doctrine pp. 576, 577)
2. The baptism for the dead done in holy temples (Mormon Doctrine pp. 72,73)
3. Celestial marriage which no unworthy member or outsider can attend (Mormon Doctrine pp. 117, 118)
4. Polygamy needed to become a God (Journal of Discourse, Vol. II p. 269)
5. Blacks were cursed with a dark skin (Mormon Doctrine p. 109)
6. You can become a God if you are worthy; celestial marriage required (Mormon Doctrine p. 118)
7. We were all pre-existent spirits (Mormon Doctrine p. 589)
8. God has a body of flesh and bones (Mormon Doctrine p. 289)
9. We have a Heavenly Mother as well as a Heavenly Father (Mormon Doctrine p. 516)
10. There are three levels of heaven. To go to the highest kingdom, you must be a Mormon. Honorable persons go to the Terrestrial kingdom. The dishonest, liars, sorcerers, adulterers and whoremongers go to the Telestial kingdom . (Mormon Doctrine pp. 420, 421)
11. God and his wife achieved a celestial marriage (Celestial Marriage Manual p. 1)
12. Heavenly Father died just like Jesus (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p. 346)
13. God was once just like us and progressed to godhood (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith p. 345)
14. God has a father and His Father has a Father, etc. (Mormon Doctrine p. 322)
15. Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers (Mormon Doctrine p. 192)
16. Jesus and Lucifer each had a plan to people the earth. Jesus' plan was chosen and caused Lucifer to rebel and he and the angels that followed him were cast out of heaven. (Mormon Doctrine p. 193)
17. God lives near a star called Kolob (Mormon Doctrine p. 428)
18. Temple endowments are so sacred that you must be worthy to enter (Mormon Doctrine pp. 619, 620)
19. Jesus was not able to keep his church together (History of the Church Vol. 6 pp. 408, 409)
20. In the future, you will need Joseph Smith's consent in order to enter the celestial kingdom (Journal of Discourse Vol. 7 p.289)
21. Not everything you'll need to know concerning salvation will be recorded in the Bible but there will be additional scriptures (Mormon Doctrine p. 83)

It is not because Mormons don't agree with our definition of Christianity, but because Mormonism teaches doctrines that are contrary to Biblical Christianity that disqualifies them from being called Christian.


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