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Dinosaurs

Postby Numbers » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:43 pm

I’ve been thinking about this off and on for a while, but why do you think did God create them, or perhaps more likely—an environnent for them to evolve? I had an idea while my 6-year-old daughter read about them that they’re a wonderful way for children’s minds to be opened to wonder, but that’s probably a bit flippant. I’d love to know your thoughts.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby jimwalton » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:44 pm

I heard an interesting presentation once claiming that God created millions of years of dinosaurs to establish the vast reservoirs of fossil fuels that our society needs to function. I'm still pondering what I think of that, but I had never heard it before and thought I'd pass it on to you for consideration.

From another perspective, I would guess God created them as part of the diversity of nature. Things come and go in the progress of time.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby Numbers » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:59 am

Thanks for that. It is something I wonder over in quiet moments.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby Major Minor » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:14 am

> I heard an interesting presentation once claiming that God created millions of years of dinosaurs to establish the vast reservoirs of fossil fuels that our society needs to function.

Fossil Fuels aren't made up of dinosaurs. Fossil fuels comes from bacterial blooms. Dinosaurs aren't even the coal that we have. that's plants from ancient jungles and forests.

Dinosaurs just fell in tar pits and their bones were fossilized and preserved there which is why we know they existed...
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby jimwalton » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:19 am

You're right, of course. What I meant was that it was during the era (and more) when dinosaurs roamed the earth that there was so much plant life, and that the earth had a different environmental structure. My point was that possibly this long era of hundreds of millions of years was not just wasted time or God's misjudgment, but that those historic eras have actually achieved a purpose, at least for our culture for however long they last.

My last sentence, also, considers that they were just part of the ebb and flow of nature and diversity.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby Brooks » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:03 am

Do you consider humans part of the ebb and flow of nature and diversity?
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby jimwalton » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:03 am

I do. We seem to have come on the scene about 200,000 years ago, give or take thousands of years (depending on which scientific model you accept, and what you consider to be homo sapien). As of now we are the predominant life force on the planet (both to Earth advantage and demise). According to the Bible, there will not be a time when homo sapiens are no more while the Earth continues on its trajectory. According to the Bible, homo sapiens are the last phase of history, and we will continue until the end of the Earth (because God will come to judge the living and the dead and we will enter eternity).

But for now, humans are definitely part of the environmental picture, and responsible for many life forms on the planet. We are diverse as a species and yet genetically related. So, yes, we are part of the ebb and flow of nature and diversity.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby Lucky » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:21 am

If that was the case, then the bible should have said something along those lines. It should have said, "I made a bunch of crap before Adam and Eve." It doesn't though. Sometimes people twist the wording to mean that. Days = eons or something. Seems like if they meant for us to believe it then the story should align a bit better with the evidence.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby jimwalton » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:21 am

The Bible is the story of God's self-revelation, not the scientific and paleontological history of Earth. The origin and evolutionary progress of dinosaurs, as well as wolves and whales, is not of concern to the biblical writers. Their point is that God created everything, and then it starts the story of how God revealed himself through what he created. It is of no concern of how much time and how much nature happened before human beings.
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Re: Dinosaurs

Postby Lucky » Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:43 pm

Then why go into detail about how it happened at all?
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