by jimwalton » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:35 pm
> I truly believe religion isn't for some people.
I'm sorry to hear you've had such a rough time. I do believe that all of us are different and we relate to God in different ways. For some, it's all intellectual (learning, knowing, understanding); for some, it's all emotional (how we feel and getting excited when we're in church); for most it's a blend. Remember, it's a relationship, not being religious. Just like earthly relationships, some people are very emotive and others have an intellectual friendship—and that's OK. We relate to God as individuals, not as conformists.
> I've ever felt or heard from God is crickets
It's certainly not about feelings. I entered a relationship with God because it was true, not because I had certain feelings or because of what it did for me. The Bible is quite honest (Heb. 11.32-38) that some people have very rich experiences and some quite lousy. But it's not about how we feel, what happens in our lives (our circumstances), or whether we are aware of any material or emotional benefit (2 Cor. 1.8-11; 11.21-29; 12.7-10). We're Christians because we have assessed it to be true.
I find that God rarely speaks to me while I am praying (believe me, I have tried, cried, scream and gotten quite angry about this). That's not the way He reveals Himself to me. For me, God speaks to me through the Bible. I take a verse, or a passage, and mull it over in my head all day long, or several days if need be, and trying to figure out all about it: what it's saying, what it says about God, what it says about me, what it means. And I ask God to help me understand it deeply. That's where I hear "the voice of God." (I've never actually heard a voice.) But all kinds of thoughts run through my head, and I get understanding, and I learn.
Each of us is different. God apparently talks to some people in prayer, but not me. People get all emotional in church, but that's not me, either. But the Bible is where God speaks to me, in understanding and help.
So let's talk some more. You're obviously frustrated.
> I truly believe religion isn't for some people.
I'm sorry to hear you've had such a rough time. I do believe that all of us are different and we relate to God in different ways. For some, it's all intellectual (learning, knowing, understanding); for some, it's all emotional (how we feel and getting excited when we're in church); for most it's a blend. Remember, it's a relationship, not being religious. Just like earthly relationships, some people are very emotive and others have an intellectual friendship—and that's OK. We relate to God as individuals, not as conformists.
> I've ever felt or heard from God is crickets
It's certainly not about feelings. I entered a relationship with God because it was true, not because I had certain feelings or because of what it did for me. The Bible is quite honest (Heb. 11.32-38) that some people have very rich experiences and some quite lousy. But it's not about how we feel, what happens in our lives (our circumstances), or whether we are aware of any material or emotional benefit (2 Cor. 1.8-11; 11.21-29; 12.7-10). We're Christians because we have assessed it to be true.
I find that God rarely speaks to me while I am praying (believe me, I have tried, cried, scream and gotten quite angry about this). That's not the way He reveals Himself to me. For me, God speaks to me through the Bible. I take a verse, or a passage, and mull it over in my head all day long, or several days if need be, and trying to figure out all about it: what it's saying, what it says about God, what it says about me, what it means. And I ask God to help me understand it deeply. That's where I hear "the voice of God." (I've never actually heard a voice.) But all kinds of thoughts run through my head, and I get understanding, and I learn.
Each of us is different. God apparently talks to some people in prayer, but not me. People get all emotional in church, but that's not me, either. But the Bible is where God speaks to me, in understanding and help.
So let's talk some more. You're obviously frustrated.